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1969 Pontiac Gto Judge on 2040-cars

Year:1969 Mileage:0
Location:

Houston, Texas, United States

Houston, Texas, United States
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The GTO was a brainchild of Pontiac engineer Russell Gee, an engine specialist, Bill Collins, a chassis specialist and Pontiac Chief engineer John De Lorean. Early in 1963 GM issued a mandate banning GM divisions from ANY involvement in racing. This drastically effected Pontiac at the time as they were heavily dedicated to racing and their promotion of racing was tremendous. Because of this, Pontiac’s young visionary management turned its attention to street performance.

Gee, Collins and De Lorean decided to make the Tempest a “Super Tempest” by making it an option to have one of the large 389 engines installed into the smaller Tempest body. They had found a “loophole” in GM policy by doing this. Pontiac Generals Manager Pete Estes approved the new model and as they say… “The Rest is History”!

The standard engine for these cars was the 400 cubic inches motor with 350 HP. An optional engine was the 366 HP RAM AIR III motor. The name Judge came from a comedy routine done in the ‘60’s by the comedy team Rowan and Martin called “Here Comes De Judge”. Now let me tell you about this GTO Judge.

These cars were somewhat limited in the number they produced and were quite a desirable car at the time and have definitely increased in collectability over the years. Some of the Judges in perfect condition have reached incredible values recently. This Judge was restored a number of years ago and included in that restoration was an engine rebuild. This car has had only 4 owners since 1969. It is not perfect by any means, but, is certainly very nice as you can see. You can also see by the documentation, it has the PHS documentation with the car. At the time of restoration, besides the engine rebuild, it also had new suspension, brakes, U-Joints and exhaust, etc. Is also has its original rally wheels with BF Goodrich tires. The interior is in very nice condition and I believe it to be original. It has a hidden radio with a 10 CD changer in the trunk. It is an automatic with full console. The paint on the car is nice and slick with some imperfections due to the age of the paint and normal wear from driving. According to the records I have, the engine is the original engine and the drive train and it does have the YZ stamping. “All numbers matching”. The Serial Number of the car is 242379A126505.

The car has always lived in the South and has only had 4 owners since 1969. It has had only one known repaint. The options on this car are as follows: power steering and brakes; A/C 9 (does not work); clock and original radio (does not work); hidden AM/FM radio with CD changer in the trunk; Judge Package; Tinted Glass; Automatic transmission with 3:23 gears in the rear-end and full gauges. The engine compartment looks very nice, as you can see for yourself and the trunk is also nicely detailed.

As you know, 1969 was the first year for the Judge and there were a total of only 6,725 cars made. Here is where it gets REALLY RARE! There were only 1,534 RAM AIR III cars built with automatic transmissions. WOW!!! Further breakdown on the records I have indicate there were only 787 built with A/C!

I am selling the Jude for a gentleman that is moving out of state. I am pricing this GTO Judge where someone should take immediate advantage of the situation and buy it right away! It I being sold for much less than what you can see available on line.

The last two pictures show two different sources for the statement of the original motor. One is the original EBay ad from 2006 and the other is an independent appraiser.  

 

 

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